So unsagged numbers are very similar. Get the latest industry news direct to your inbox. Siskiu, You're not alone in the bicycle world by any means, but there are two issues with the Siskiu build that would be easily resolved at your end, are expensive to resolve at my end, and which both point to the fact your product manager either doesn't ride long-travel 29ers or, unfortunately just as likely, chooses not to spec bikes for customers as they would spec them for themselves. FWIW I was happy with my set of Slate T4s even on the stock red pads, they were better with Shimano metal pads -- think Zee like power with more linear delivery and modulation; better than Guide R and T I've tried in the past.Â I had a second set of these brakes come OEM on a bike that was not good at all (especially the front), even with known 'good' pads and a full brake fluid purge and bleed. The bike has both premium traction and decent support with the shock wide open without the harshness that can accompany bikes with more obvious anti-squat. The Polygon Siskiu N9 is an aluminium full-suspension enduro bike with a combination of parts and technology designed for the most demanding conditions. Put another way, if Polygon is going to spec TRP brakes then the Quadiems are mandatory on a 160mm travel bike. It should, it could, and it doesn't. It's a long travel, 160mm front & rear to be precise, 29'er Enduro bike that looks pretty damn good and has neutrally-modern geometry. But, given the full GX build, the Siskiu would be an excellent candidate for the newest Code R brake from SRAM and at the risk of tarnishing my min-maxing reputation I question why they didn't just go full SRAM-duro with a Yari up front, a Super Deluxe in the back, and - yes - a Reverb dropper post. After the grips, a rotor and set of Shimano sintered pads are the next upgrades I'd make to the Siskiu. Right away I appreciated the wheel size considerations with small and medium models delivering 170mm of travel and 27" hoops, and medium, large, and extra-large bikes sporting 160mm of suspension and 29" wheels. After swapping grips it was time to look at what's impressive about the Polygon Siskiu N9. Only slightly less notable than the lack of an in-triangle mounting location for a water bottle is that the geometry chart indicates every size is a bit short on reach and the effective seat angles are too slack, particularly in large and XL. I will reiterate one more time that in the case of the 'ASSault' saddle, no matter how leathery your contact patch or meaty your thigh muscles, you aren't going to want to sit on it or clamp it between your legs. Luckily I discovered this torquing hard on the bar climbing out of the saddle but I can imagine more perilous situations. Loving all the fresh, and fresher, wood on Boundary Trail. I'll swap the fork out on the Siskiu N9 at some point in the test period for a truer apples-apples comparison but with a short stem I think the short offset will be a winner on this platform. Photo - Deniz Merdano. I didn't care much in the past, but I'm using a water bottle these days and I wouldn't buy a bike that couldn't take one in the front triangle. Geometry is free! 2019 Polygon Siskiu N9 29 Bike $ 2,999.00. Relatively unseen in Europe, Polygon have flown under the radar somewhat but are beginning to show us what weâve all been missing over here, with some bold designs and some exceedingly well-priced bikes that have begun to get the marketâs attention. For those that don't care about a water bottle, the answer to your next question is no, it is not available as a frame only. You can absolutely. Polygon Siskiu N series is an aluminum full suspension enduro bike with a combination of parts and technology design to be ready to be ridden in the most demanding of conditions. They are distributed monthly and used to weight your vote on polls. With this Siskiu N9, Polygon is taking the most common path to demonstrate value, or at least the perception of value, by combining a quality aluminum frame, GX Eagle shifting, and Fox Suspension at the lowest price. The general consensus is that SRAM GX is the best value Eagle drivetrain, when balancing performance and durability, which I suppose makes sense since it sits smack dab in the middle of the lineup. Both come from the fact that this is not a 130mm travel trail bike. I was very happy with the fit of the size large Siskiu but it is indicative, with modern geometry, of how necessary it is for companies to add more sizes as the range of optimum stem lengths has really shrunk to 35mm-50mm stems. Considering the price, some riders will have money left for upgrades. Bikes - All Mountain, That said, I did wear a chamois way back then. Curvy hydroformed tubing and a low-slung top tube give the Polygon a much lees boxy, more modern profile than the Calibre. As a big fan of industry-standard R&D (Rip-Off & Duplicate), I'd point Polygon towards ridegg.com for some ideas on how to squeeze a bottle into the main triangle on the next edition of the Siskiu without changing the shock configuration. More on that later. Similar enough in fact that I'd say most of the difference in the basic fit comes down to fork offset. I can't recommend the Siskiu without some component swaps and, as it comes out of the box, many riders will be much happier on a shorter travel trail machine with modern geometry numbers. There's a bunch of caveats to list from after sale support to getting the bike properly set up at a dealer, etc. Photo: AM, I don't love dropper posts that extend if I inadvertently grab my saddle, but apparently I'm in a small minority of riders bothered by this. Not that theyâre my favourite or anything, but thereâs no reason to swap out Codes if your bike comes with them. Right out of the box. Free shipping on orders over $50 (continental U.S. only). Features, Still, I think for a lot of riders it is a good phrase to live and shop by. Weight: 35 lb 4.4 oz (16,000 g) Miscellaneous: Internal cable routing Weight given for size M without pedals Geometry adjustable via flip chip in rear shock mount: â Head tube angle and seat tube angle change by 0.5° â Bottom bracket height changes by 10mm Specs, reviews & prices for the 2019 Polygon SISKIU N9. Curious, if you don't mind saying, how much do you weight and what are you comparing them too? It's the baseline drivetrain against which all SRAM, and maybe even all ShRAMano drivetrains are measured. I'm happy to use a Climb Switch for longer uphill efforts, and I certainly did, but if you hate fiddling with knobs but want traction for technical climbs and a buttery ride when descending technical trails then this is actually a tough package to beat. I donât think you can look at Reach isolated from effective top tube length. "I'm not actually fully committed to the current geometry trend of all the reach with a really steep seat tube angle ". Get the latest industry news direct to your inbox. Anyone got a Polygon Siskiu? Moral of the story? Posted in: I really have nothing to add to all the ink that's been spilled over SRAM GX. The bottom bracket/main pivot junction is my favourite part of the frame. Photo: AM, On the other hand, I'm positive the vast majority of riders will join me in thinking the stock saddle is an ass hatchet. Posted in: There is a vocal majority of riders who want the option to carry a bottle inside the front triangle of their frame and those riders are automatically going to scratch the Siskiu off their list because it has no bottle mounts and no room to add them. If it took a water bottle in the main triangle I'd be all over using it as a test mule because with the right component choices and a 170mm dropper for the steepest stuff, it has the potential to be one of my all-time favourite suspension bikes. Waiting on metallic pads for the the Guide T's for the final verdict, but the brakes may be the only item that needs to be swapped in the end. Shimano pads and fluids are compatible and readily available, the TRP brakes are rebuildable and easy to bleed, and there's no wandering bite point. Effective seat angle for a XXL bike with 525mm Reach probably should be 81-degrees. Back to that 75Â° effective seat angle for a moment. Polygon Bikes, I learned quickly that the stock grips are a terrible liability for a company relying on the average home mechanic to assemble their bikes. I like the stability of the 440mm stays and combined with the 65.5Â° HTA the platform is nicely balanced. The 4 piston brake will give you better bite on your rotors, for those days when your fully on it and leaving braking till the last minute. I fully support the shock orientation of the Siskiu, mind you. OK, makes sense. And nearly cover everyone. It may pedal like a trail bike, but a 6" 29er can get up to some pretty serious shenanigans when pointed down. Introducing the all new Siskiu D7 â an all round XC trail bike that can handle everything from your fun local trails to all day Alpine epics. October 19, 2020 by Admin Polygonbikes. Jayem. It has a 35mm stem, ripmo has 40, but I run the seat literally at the other end of the rails, so it definitely has more ETT overall but both bikes feel right to me.Â, Then I have an XLÂ 2017 Bronson same 475 reach but 74 deg seat tube. Reviews / Enduro Bikes. Look at that... thereâs room for 6x sizes in between. I'd definitely have zero complaints if this bike came with the MT5 (or Trail Sport) or the Code R in terms of balancing a budget and braking power. I even swapped the master cylinders around with no change so that would infer that it was a caliper issue. The bad set had a good firm bleed at the levers. I had plenty of adjustment left with the stock 150mm dropper post and could have run most of the 170mm options on the market. Photo: AM. As much as I like oddball stuff, at 6'0" on a bike with a 475mm reach and a 430mm seat tube complete with 210mm dropper the geometry on this thing just doesn't compute for me. Siskiu, An aggressive, agile, and fast bike for the rider who wants to defeat their personal limitations all â¦ That said, it's a really nice aluminum frame, GX drivetrain, and DPX2 shock for 2800 USD and some of those upgrades come down to personal preference, rather than necessity. I also have a large 2019 rootdown. Can you replace the rhythm damper with a grip2 damper? Get the latest and breaking news from Polygon Bikes. I covered it full throttle in my Siskiu first look. Overall the sizing is kinda bizarre for most people unless you like 70mm+ stems or 100mm droppers. Compare forks, shocks, wheels and other components on current and past MTBâs. Beef up the tires and brakes and service the fork and this is potentially an entirely different review even with having to wear my Camelbak. If it was my own bike I'd be investing in a fast-engaging, high quality, rear hub ASAP because that's what I like and I find it makes a big difference to my climbing and technical-gnar riding. I donât know if there are any plans to review the AF. Not the first person to mention this, and I've heard similar feedback about the Quadiem, so I do have to wonder if there's a QA/QC thing going on.Â Â, Did you notice a big difference swapping from the TRP rotor to a Centerline? DH stoppers or don't make the bike is par for this category. Weight: 34 lb 6.3 oz (15,600 g) Miscellaneous: Internal cable routing Weight given for size S without pedals Tags: I think Cam did a great job of highlighting the GX Eagle package, so I'm going to say it shifted very well in all situations, although I always try not to shift under heavy loads, and I think that, while I'm not creating a lot of black and white over it, it's the highlight of the N9 in terms of presenting value in a 2800 USD bike. There are plenty of proven options for basic OE saddles that will work for a large cross-section of riders. I managed the shorter Reach and lower Stack of the Polygon versus my personal bikes by running a 20mm wider bar (800mm v. 780mm) with a bit more rise and achieved an excellent, modern fit. Bike companies, you don't have to ship bikes setup for tubeless... Photo: AM, ...but for customers' sake, tape the rims and include some tubeless valves. Definitely, they even pre-min-maxed the suspension spec over drivetrain! It drives the shock beautifully with no mechanical redirecting of forces and I think there's a strong argument that Polygon could have gone with a less advanced shock than the Fox DPX2, spent the money elsewhere on the build, and still come away with very impressive performing suspension for their price level. I donât disagree though that designing the platform around 170mm with the knowledge that some riders will go longer and some shorter that the seat tubes could be a bit shorter in each size. 29'er, EAGLE, I ended up running PNW Loam grips, my Moon saddle, my P321/Race Face ARC 40 wheel and a 2.8" WTB Vigilante up front and a 2.6 Vigilante in the rear. It would be a very easy to clean up if I had spare TRP brake fittings. 29+, I like the Magic Mary, I don't even mind the Soft compound v. the Super Soft, but please give me the support of that Super Gravity sidewall. Period. POLYGON UR: AT MARIBOR WORLD CUPS. I know folks who are hoping longer than 200mm posts are coming and folks that have gone back to 150mm.Â. Guerrilla Gravity and Marin demonstrating mid-sized bottle carrying with a couple of different shock orientations. I'm happiest in the 75-76Â° ballpark on a full-suspension bike so it's no surprise that it worked really well for me. Thanks;Â Effective top tube length matters too! It's one of the only dimensions you can easily alter with no real effect on any other parameters.Â, I have two fairly new school bikes and an older one.Â, I have a large 2020 ripmo AF -475 reach, 76 deg STA, 632 ETT. Polygon Siskiu line updated to 2021 models, whats everyone's thoughts? Is GX Eagle the standard against which all other mountain bike drivetrains are now measured? Indonesian bicycle manufacturer, Polygon, is ready to unleash its newest full suspension mountain bike for 2021; the redesigned and reengineered Siskiu T. Sitting smack-bang in the middle between the Siskiu D (Downcountry) and the Siskiu N (Enduro) the Siskiu T â¦ The house brand Entity cockpit and wheels seem totally fine. The new Polygons look interesting. It's just that it can be a f***ing terrifying prospect trying to reign in those big wheels when the terrain gets steep and deep. 478 reach, 76 deg STA, 637 ETT. The Fox Rythm fork was okay at best and the brakes were under-gunned even with a 203mm rotor and a significant pad upgrade but the Siskiu's potential still shone through on every ride. The Hot Garbage I'm not going to dwell on how dangerous the lock-on grips are and how absolutely crotch-murdering uncomfortable the stock saddle on the Siskiu were. The frames look good, both in terms of paint and weld quality, and I'm always interested in testing rigs at the more affordable end of the spectrum. If I was going to pay for a damper upgrade from Fox it would be FIT4. These grips piss me off every time I think about them, especially since a lot of Polygon customers will likely be assembling the bikes themselves. I've heard some very strong arguments, when it comes to mountain bike drivetrains, that GX is now the standard against which all other drivetrains, including those from much larger Shimano, are measured. Polygon can't sell bikes based on a storied race history like Yeti, or from being developed with some of the most aggressive riding around in their backyard like Rocky Mountain, or because they have a massive, well established, dealer support network like Trek. Chat Make Offer. 470 is a great length for a large frame imo.Â. Reviews, ratings, specifications, weight, price and more for the 2019 Polygon Siskiu N9 29 Bike 160mm of balanced travel for 29â³ frames, and 170mm front and back on 27.5â³ models. And geometry is free! But competitive or long-distance cross-country riders will be â¦ Many times, as we tested this bike, we found ourselves asking "how can we justify spending any more than this on a bike?" The TRP Slate are great feeling brakes that bring a decent bite once the stock pads are upgraded to a set of sintered Shimano pads - specifically the fin-less Saint/Zee pads. I've had great success with a set of Slate T4's on the stock red pads even (but with SRAM centerline rotors), so much so they've ended up on my park bike. It is one of the machines I've ridden lately that has me thinking that for local riding I'd prefer either a shorter-travel 29'er or a similarly-suspended 27+ bike but that's maybe for another article. I believe the large Siskiu should come with a 170mm dropper post, and I'm not a fan of the stock model, but I wouldn't spend to upgrade right out of the box. I do however believe every brand should have a 500mm+ reach bike in their lineup whether they call it an XL or XXL. PLUS half of your 29er, Introducing the 2021 Santa Cruz Nomad XO1, [Forum] Council Workshop-Seymour Trails Strategic Plan, Lazer's new Jackal MIPS MTB Helmet: Reviewed. It wants to get deep-deep in its travel, eat bumps, track through corners, and hammer up short, gnarly climbs only to dive back into tight steep rock armouring down the other side. October 6, 2020 by Admin Polygonbikes. As a former 'core Shimanophile, it's hard to process living in a world where XT isn't the measuring stick but SRAM's GX drivetrain is both excellent and legion. It takes some time for your body to learn to just take the amount of travel needed for whatever's ahead. I donât know if I have strangely long femers or if itâs all the single speeding but I need to be climbing a wall to generate real power, and achieve a comfortable position, with a really steep STA. Thread starter Crunch; Start date Jan 7, 2019; Crunch Squid. N9, As much value as the Polygon Siskiu N9 presents, these hidden costs need to be accounted for. Normally I'd be quite satisfied with a 2.6" tire, but the 2.8" rubber helped make up for the suspension fork's 'meh' performance. Dear Uncle Dave: How do you Keep a Secret Bike, Secret? Polygon, With an eye to the budget, I'd like to see Polygon swap these Slates out for a Code R or Magura MT5 system. I came to a point where I had simply invested all the time I was willing to put into this bike; however, if the rear brake was externally routed I wouldn't have been able to resist a stopper swap because with my Vigilante up-front I think that would be the difference that pushes the Siskiu into being one of the best buys under 3K USD. At 5'9" I think you got into the small band of people who fit the large.Â. If I was building a custom frame, it would have a 30mm longer wheelbase which I'd accomplish through slightly longer chainstays, a slacker headtube angle (HTA), and only a touch longer top tube. Polygon is available in the USA through bikesonline.com and originally this review process was going to include a build-up experience. It was sticky off the top and never seemed to break in. The 170 KS post it came with works quite well so far. I laughed at DUB 28.99mm cranks too, but the bottom bracket life is killing anything SRAM was doing with 24mm or 30mm spindles. 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